Trivia / Bagatelle

Question #1: Who am I? (By E3161 Victoria Edwards (RMC ‘03)

  • I studied at RMC in Kingston.
  • I served in the Royal Canadian Engineers during the Second World War. I was second in command of the 7th Canadian Battalion.
  • My father was a Canadian soldier, journalist and diplomat. With the rank of Major-General, my father commanded the 2nd Canadian Division (1940-41). His Majesty King George VI, in military uniform at centre, was shown around the Calgary Highlanders’ area on 27 March 1941 by Lieutenant Colonel J. Fred Scott, in helmet and respirator. My father is the man behind.

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  • In 1959, my father donated his five and a half acre estate at Batchelor Bay near Whytecliff to the UBC for work in the fields of fine arts and public affairs, and approved student activities. He donated his personal library of 10,000 books in 1963; it has been housed in “the Rockwoods Centre Library” of the UBC library.
  • I died in Vancouver on 8/22/1994.

a) 1780 Air Commodore Martin Costello (RMC ’24)
b) 1801 Brigadier-General Stephen E. Morres (RMC ’24)
c) 1713 Major Victor E.C. Odlum (RMC ’23)
d) 1814 Major-General Elliot N Rodger (RMC ’24)

Question #2: Which Prime Minister of Canada wrote in his diary after a visit to RMC: “It was interesting to reflect that had I been a year older at the time, I might myself have received a training at the Military College. I recall father was very anxious I should take a course there, and was impressed by the value of the training. I was, however, a year too young.”

a) Sir Robert Laird Borden, PC, GCMG, KC served as the 8th Prime Minister of Canada
b) Arthur Meighen, PC, QC served as the 9th Prime Minister of Canada
c) William Lyon Mackenzie King PC OM CMG served as the 10th Prime Minister of Canada
d) Paul Edgar Philippe Martin. PC, MP (also known as Paul Martin, Jr.), served as the 21st Prime Minister of Canada
e) Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien, (generally known as Jean Chrétien) served as the 20th Prime Minister of Canada.

Answer #1: c) 1713 Major Victor E.C. Odlum (RMC ’23)

Source #1

Source #2

Source #3: Victor Odlum : A Memoir West Vancouver, BC, Canada Petrokletor Publishers 1995 ISBN Number: 0968016804 / 9780968016800

Answer #2: c) William Lyon Mackenzie King

Source: William Lyon Mackenzie King Papers, Diary, 1 August 1938, f.585 cited in J.L. Granatstein “The Generals: The Canadian Army’s Senior Commanders in the Second World War”

2 Comments

  • 6137 Wyn van der Schee

    October 7, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Never trust anything you find in Wikipedia. Major General V.W. Odlum never attended RMC. However, his son Major V.E.C. Odlum entered the college in 1923 and served in the Royal Canadian Engineers during the Second World War. The Odlum name is still prominent in Vancouver.

  • 6137 Wyn van der Schee

    October 14, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Hi Victoria,
    It’s all terribly confusing with these Odlums. Victor E.C. served in the Second World War in the Royal Canadian Engineers, while Victor W. served in the 7th (1st British Columbia Regiment) Infantry Battalion Canadian Expeditionary Force in the First World War. The 7th was a First World War battalion. Victor W. became the 2nd in Command of the 7th in September 1914 when it was organized from volunteers from British Columbia at Valcartier Camp. Upon the death in battle of Lieutenant Colonel William Hart McHarg on 29 April 1915. Major Odlum was promoted to the rank of lieutenant colonel and appointed to command the 7th Battalion. On 10 July 1916 he was appointed to was command 11th Brigade, 4th Canadian Division and promoted to the rank of brigadier general. Victor W. served in the Militia between the wars and was appointed to command 2nd Canadian Division upon its formation early in 1940, as a major general.
    Sources: Douglas E. Harker. The Dukes: The story of the men who have served in Peace and War with the British Columbia Regiment (D.C.O.)1883-1973. Vancouver, 1973.
    John F. Meek. Over the Top: The Canadian Infantry in the First World War. Orangeville, Ontario, 1971.